It feels like this coup is sinking to new and unfortunate depths.
What do you feel like Elendil’s mindset is right now?
Is this the breaking point in terms of any kind of peaceful outcome at this stage?
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LLOYD OWEN: Like all of these events in history, they all come one at a time.
Shakespeare says something about that.
not in single spies, but in battalions.
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Because then, they suddenly come in a wave, as it were.
This is the ancient question with him about leadership.
That’s the internal dialogue.
Different things happen, different interpretations.
That’s the nature of faith, isn’t it?
That somehow, there is no manual.
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You just have to try and try and make the best decision as each difficulty or occasion presents itself.
I think that’s probably where he is.
Is it too late for Eregion?
Sometimes, those individual motivations are driven by their emotional instinctive response.
Actually, not even a response or reaction.
As you probably know from your own life, grief comes in different rates and paces for different people.
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We all go through different stages of it, at different times.
So, I think she’s furious with him.
And she blames Miriel for making that decision.
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To a certain extent, he would consider [Earien] too young to understand.
We haven’t had a chance yet to explore it deeply enough.
Now, this is the side of history we need to be on.
So, I think that’s in the mix too.
That’s the fall of man, right?
The fall, ego that takes you there.
It’s all in there.
Working closely, being politically aligned.
Then they share the amount of loss that they both have.
Her, of her sight, the battle, the decision they have made together.
That scene was always a good scene on the page.
And then there was something that happened, the particular way that [director] Wayne Yip shot it.
Sometimes, if it’s possible for you to get those two cameras going, then something can happen.
JD and Patrick and Cynthia and I have sort of…something developed from that scene that they wrote.
Shared grief, perhaps.”
Might even be surprised that you would say that to them.
But it’s definitely there.
What you saw in Episode 5, when she stops him and puts his hand on his chest…
There was something, again, slightly instinctively, that happened, because it was there so long.
Sorry, you’re getting me back into that moment.
In literature and anywhere else where people don’t quite say it.
Look, it’s impossible because of rank for him, on some level.
His wife’s died, which is an invention of ours.
But at the same time, I think it’s a good invention.
Do you know what that grief, and then his children, all the responsibility achieved?
And for her too.
Is this the beginning of the end?
Jumping forward to the trial scene, it’s such a striking visual, that cliffside pool.
Was that a set that was filmed on, or did you all film in a specific location?
OWEN:That’s a location in Tenerife in the Canary Islands.
We got there, day one, and it’s literally a pool.
We had a whole massive safety briefing about how you couldn’t get too close to the edge.
And I remember thinking it was like a mill pond.
If it laps over the edge, I don’t think I’m going to fall in.
We can be overcautious, probably quite rightly.
People were looking out.
Some of the local folk in Tenerife were reading the sea and going, “Right.
You’ve got 30 seconds before there’s a wave coming.”
So we’d do the thing, and they would go, “That one’s not big.
Because at this point, nobody really in Numenor knows that he’s okay, that he’s fine.
But, at this point in the story, has he resigned himself?
He is very reluctant.
I thinkthere was a bit of acceptance in him offering that candleand floating it off.
How far is it going to keep going?
All of those thoughts are dangerous because they could just unzip him.
If he lets himself into the hope, and it doesn’t come, it doubles the agony.
So,he’s a locked box.
Those feelings are very deep inside that box.
That’s where we are with him now.