Mary Holland Delivers a Pitch-Perfect Performance as Patience
She is a genius.
PERRI NEMIROFF: I have to ask you all about working with Mary [Holland].
BRANDON SCOTT JONES: Theres a part where I have to imitate the way she does the name Patience.
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I don’t think she had started shooting it.
We played it for each other.
ROMAN ZARAGOZA: I remember that, and it was her doing the double Patience.
I kept thinking, How is someone gonna play this character?
In those two words.
Then, it was so fun to shoot that scene together and to work with her.
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JONES: I should make that my ringtone.
I was gonna say, I hope you kept the voice note!
JONES: I think I might have it.
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I’ll have to find.
It is very good.
Who does the best “Patience”?
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SHEILA CARRASCO: Yours is pretty good.
ZARAGOZA: Mary Holland, for sure, does the best.
Mary Holland’s Puritan ghost is a spectral scene-stealer.
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I was tickled by that the first time I heard her say it.
I am curious though, how is that written in a script?
Is it written with any descriptors?
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JONES: The parentheses.
A lot of her parentheticals were unhinged, comma insane.
[Laughs] Mary is like, Alright, I can do this!
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ZARAGOZA: I love when it’s a happy, like, Patience, Patience.
Its like, Oh, it can be a good thing too.
Let’s get into character specifics.
Brandon, I’ll come your way first.
Obviously things didn’t work out with Nigel, and then in Episode 2, Nigel moves out.
At that point, where is Isaac’s head at in terms of a relationship?
JONES: Great question.
ROSE MCIVER: And taking it out on those around him.
[Laughs]
JONES: And taking it out on those around him.
Hes so desperate right now.
He feels so bad.
JONES: I think for him, it’s about being slightly less selfish.
I think that’s where it would start.
Itll happen at his own pace.
ZARAGOZA: Baby steps or two steps back.
That seems like the right math there.
How does that define her Season 4 arc?
So, now they’re at the point of like, What’s next?
How can we support each other?
So, they’re going to be there for each other.
I feel bad for Betsy [Sodaro].
She was booted from the throuple!
CARRASCO: You know what?
Nancy was a cool throuplemate.
MCIVER: I feel like Nancy’s good, though.
Nancy takes care of Nancy.
I went through the Creep LA experience with her.
It was the coolest thing ever!
ZARAGOZA: We heard about this!
Asher [Grodman] told us.
She brought so much life and energy to that experience, and it heavily defined it for us.
CARRASCO: Let me guess, she was like, Whoa!"
MCIVER: “That rules!
JONES: That’s a great way to describe just working with her.
She comes in, and she’s just the brightest ball of energy, and she’s awesome.
ZARAGOZA: Actually, that’s a really interesting thing to bring up.
So, just wait for that.
There’s gonna be a lot.
We’re going to dive into Sass’ relationship to love.
MCIVER: Sass is a heartthrob.
We’re all calling it.
ZARAGOZA: He’s a hopeless romantic, man.
He just wants to be loved.
ZARAGOZA: He’sinthe locker?
Like being thrown in the locker?
Its a little bit in between both, right?
He’s a catch, and they gotta be good enough.
I need good things for Sass.
ZARAGOZA: Thank you!
Rose, I think this is from Episode 2.
It’s a particular line that you deliver to Patience.
MCIVER: I think Patience is the straw that broke the camel’s back for Sam.
This is too much.
I draw the line.
So, you know what?
In some ways, thank you, Patience, for giving Sam a bit of a backbone.
Sorry, Patience, What Was That You Said About “The Others”?
Can you tease anything at all about what she means by the others?
CARRASCO: I wish we knew.
ZARAGOZA: The worm.
CARRASCO: Yeah, it could be the other worm named Patience.
MCIVER: I feel like it’s such a great open-ended moment.
JONES: Or we could luck out and just get a free production ofThe Crucible.
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Are you able to tease anything about how him being able to see the ghosts changes the group dynamic?
When we’re on set, we’ll attempt to figure out moments and beats and everything together.
ZARAGOZA: And getting to witness Utkarsh smile for the first time was just beautiful.
ZARAGOZA: Hes like, Oh, you guys have been doing this the last three years?
MCIVER: And realities versus expectations, you know?
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