Was that something you always felt was important?

And so, the unspooling of that is what the season is about.

With Season 1, we didnt know them yet.

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Season 2 was a real pleasure to write.

I think of it like an experiment.

That is not so easy, suddenly.

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Jason, why did you think Brett Goldstein was the perfect person to play Louis?

SEGEL: Because Brett was meant to play that part.

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Im just a guy who said, What are you talking about?

Bretts supposed to play that part.

And Im so glad that thats what happened.

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How did you see past that?

SEGEL: Because people couldnt see past Marshall Eriksen (his character inHow I Met Your Mother).

It took me several years and several movies to get to be able to spread my wings, slowly.

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If I can help punch through that barrier to entry, then Im gonna do it.

GOLDSTEIN: I hadnt thought about it.

Wed written it, and then it was Jason Segels idea.

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He brought me and Bill Lawrence into his trailer and was like, Why isnt Brett doing this?

Brett should play this.

So, I thought, Fuck it, Ill give it a go.

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And here we are.

I feel like there are any number of ways the reactions to that character could have gone.

How hard is that for Jimmy this season?

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SEGEL: My experience is that there has to be some form of forgiveness.

Otherwise, it goes right into the backpack.

Its undeniable, this show needs more Louis.

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Brett, what was it like to shoot the conversation with Alice in episode six?

She has so much to say, and its a real moment for them.

What was that like to figure that out?

Lukita is so good in that scene.

Shes like an angel.

Shes so perfect and heartbreaking.

That was a really special day.

Its one of those rare and beautiful things when youre filming something and theres magic on the day.

Everyone was so focused.

Its a long one and its big.

Its the peak of the season.

Its about trust with the actors, as well.

Lukita is just so good and Michael is so good.

We were all there for each other.

I really loved that day.

GOLDSTEIN: No, I never did that.

In hindsight, Im like, Why didnt I write scenes with Harrison Ford?

Youre following the story and youre following the character.

If it was right to, I would.

But it wasnt, so I didnt.

I still get to work with Harrison as a writer, so we get to hang out.

Jason, who came up with the idea that you would hold Harrison Fords hand and kiss it?

What was that scene like to shoot?

Actors have weird eccentricities, and he just really wanted me to kiss his hand.

That was really a fun day.

SEGEL: I never feel that way about the comedy stuff.

Im like, But what does it really look like?

Thats what I think is most interesting.

Thats how we wanted to tackle grief in the first season.

What does it really look like, besides someone being sad and staring at a picture of their wife?

Its actually sloppier and dirtier than that.

Its eating a whole pizza.

Its the gritty minutia of it all.

And I think we deal with that with the forgiveness storyline, as well.

Are you hoping to do more seasons beyond Season 3?

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